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  • rjohnstone
    Apr 18, 03:21 PM
    There wasn't a phone that looked or worked like the iPhone until the iPhone. Now how many clones are there?

    There wasn't a Tablet that looked or worked like the iPad until the iPad. Now how many clones are there?

    Apple is absolutely justified in going after them for copying their UI and design as far as I can see. I'm shocked that it's taken this long.
    There was at least one phone that "looked" like an iPhone before anyone new what the iPhone looked like.
    Does the Prada ring a bell? Probably not to most of you, but it was first to market with that basic "look".
    As for the UI, old WinMo phones had grids of icons on the desktop, so again, not a unique "look".
    Next one will be arguing about the spacing or the number of icons per row. Nit picking I say.

    The iPad is not "innovative" in it's looks or design either. It's minimalism at it's best. So simplistic that it will be tough to defend in court. It is a logical basic design for a tablet.
    As for how it functions, it's technically the iPhone with a larger screen. So the argument of functionality fails as many devices functioned similarly prior to the release of the iPad. Screen size is irrelevant.

    Now I do believe with the icons Samsung chose to use combined with the layout, one could logically argue that Samsung was copying the overall UI from iOS. I believe that is where Apple's case is with the phones.
    Easy for Samsung to remedy. Ditch the TouchWiz UI... it sucks anyway.

    Still failing to see the argument on the Galaxy tabs though... Honeycomb looks nothing like iOS ad Samsung hasn't uglied them up with the old TouchWiz UI overlay.





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  • PlipPlop
    Apr 26, 03:26 PM
    I wonder if there will be 400k new Android phone a day soon. The power of Android cannot be stopped now.





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  • andythursby
    Apr 18, 04:41 PM
    Oh come on, we aren't really going to resort to the "there's only one way to design a mobile device" argument, are we? You're telling me the only way to design the Galaxy Tab was to make it look identical to the iPhone 3GS?

    My iPhone 4 doesn't look anything like my wife's iPhone 3GS, so apparently there are at least two ways to design a mobile phone.

    None of the other Android phones or tablets I've seen look like iPhones either. Only Samsung's.

    +1 for great common sense that some people are lacking on here so far...





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  • Yamcha
    Apr 18, 03:09 PM
    You know what I think the Galaxy Line's UI does look a lot like iOS, but at the same time people follow good design standards.

    Being a Web Designer, this type of things happens on websites all the time, you will find most websites that have very similar placement of things & even similar design, for example in the vast majority of websites you will find the navigation on top & sides, simply because we read top to bottom & left to right, have a look at - ign.com, gamespot.com or even apple.com & cnet.com..

    You will see how they have many similarities, now this doesn't necessarily mean that they copied each other.. They are just following good design principles..

    So to conclude Samsung is following good UI design.. Apple did an amazing job with it's UI on iOS.. So not surprised others are following it..

    Anyway I don't think its a reason to sue, honestly Apple is doing really well in the tablet market, I don't know what they are worried about :P.. What Apple should focus on is enhancing its UI leaving others behind..

    Forget suing :P





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  • Piggie
    Apr 23, 04:52 PM
    What is the point in this?

    For a phone and an iPad which has fixed resolution graphics, yes fine, but on a computer desktop which just scales to whatever resolution you have?

    I don't get it?

    Sure, yes, increase the resolution, but why not increase it to an industry standard instead?

    We have 1920x1080 for many widescreen monitors these days.

    We also have 1920x1200 for a bit more height.

    In the future we will be moving to 4K resolutions for video & computer graphics.

    4K http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution


    Then one day we can dream about 8K ;)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8K_Video_Format





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  • *LTD*
    Apr 5, 07:51 PM
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/8G4)

    I wonder why Apple gives a hoot? This couldn't be hurting them could it?:confused:

    It makes no difference. For starters, Toyota is violating the User Agreement. That in itself is grounds for immediate rejection. Second, it sends the wrong message. You want to do business with Apple, it has to be above-board. This should be obvious.





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  • iliketyla
    Mar 29, 02:44 PM
    Yes, didnt you know?

    Every country outside the US lives in poverty, where families must raise 17 children to send them out to work, and must fight to the death over food.

    Maybe Japan was a stretch, but the part about China is absolutely not an overstatement.

    Or perhaps the entire debacle at Foxconn has fallen on deaf ears?
    ;)





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  • 0815
    May 4, 03:06 PM
    So I guess we'll all just send you our AT&T Internet Bills when we go over their newly implemented data usage caps? :eek:

    :rolleyes:

    You don't have to use the 'preferred' way to get it - you can also use the not preferred way to get it (Assuming that the preferred implies that there is a choice of how to get it)





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  • XForge
    Aug 4, 01:45 PM
    Who voted negative????? You want it slower, eh? Give the man a G3! No, a 601!
    They can have my 500MHz G3 iBook, I'm nearly done with it.

    Ah, to be able to view movie trailers again.... siiigghhhh....





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  • mds
    Apr 26, 03:45 PM
    Just a sample size of one, but I'm a good example of a customer that Apple might not get:

    Sprint user for years. Good discounts, etc. and the service has worked fine for me over the years. For me to switch carriers for an iPhone I'd spend $40-$50 a month more. As much as I want an iphone (I own a 3gs I use internationally and really like it), unless Apple and Sprint make a deal I'm probably gonna end up with an Android phone to replace my barely functional Palm Pre. I'm heading out of the country for a couple months, hopefully Sprint has the iPhone when I return, haha...





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  • Brometheus
    Apr 25, 10:24 AM
    Apple could do themselves a lot of favours if they came out with an offical statement, explaining what iOS does in regards of user tracking ( i.e, location database ). Some 1 line email response fired off by SJ doesn't do much good.

    Once again, Apple fall down in terms of customer relations / communications. If Apple handled this correctly then all the fuss could go away in a couple days.
    Apple cannot get into the habit of responding to such claims immediately. Hershey or Pringles should definitely address such accusations of wrongdoing, because there are few internet forums filled with breathless commentary about those companies. However, there are probably more accusations against Apple than any other company in the world. Most of the controversies die after a week or two, so it makes sense to wait for a while. Otherwise Apple would constantly have to refute some claim or another. Then, if they filled to respond to any specific query the haters would accuse them of hiding something.





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  • cere
    Apr 5, 01:05 PM
    "Toyota had agreed to do so to "maintain their good relationship with Apple," "

    Toyota has a relationship with Apple, good or bad? Why? I don't see the connection.





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  • Kavok
    Apr 26, 04:16 PM
    Okay let's break it down per handset. 97 android phones with different versions of android (per wikipedia).. 5 different iPhones since 2007... which has greater share per handset?

    Just because Android is flooding the market doesn't make it a superior mobile OS. Just one that caters to the lowest common denominator.

    People I've talked to with Android-based smartphones aren't happy with the interface and some have decided to go iPhone after showing them the differences.





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  • The ORly owl
    Apr 23, 05:37 PM
    I will assume the role of the buzzkiller here and assume that this is in prevision of the fact that Lion's Spaces lets you have a different section of the same wallpaper for each space.





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  • appletastic
    Jul 30, 06:34 AM
    Iphone? I just can't see it... It will kill their ipod sales - it will be like shooting themselves in the foot. The reason is that all phones are now free with a contract - we have difficulty in having any value in our phones nowadays.. if you had a free iphone with a contract which had ipod facilities then why would you buy an ipod? It just doesnt make sense.. unless they ONLY sell it sim free. If they do bring one out then i'll certainly buy one, but I am not sure that it is such a good idea... I'd rather they produced a phone/pda hybrid like the xda - I think that this would fit better into their existing product portfolio..





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  • DiveBum
    Nov 3, 09:29 AM
    :eek: $119.00 for a mount without the software? They must be real proud of that!





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  • Lesser Evets
    May 4, 02:56 PM
    Why is everyone freaking out about re-installing the OS? Lion creates a recovery partition as part of the install process. If you need to reinstall, just reboot and hold down option...pick the recovery partition and voila.

    Does that work if the hard drive tanks and fumbles, crashes, burns, and is a useless pile of crap?





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  • sth
    Apr 20, 02:08 AM
    People underestimate how big of a change the 3GS was on the hardware side. It was based on a whole different architecture (ARM Cortex A8 CPU + PowerVR SGX535 GPU, same as the later A4-based devices but at a lower clock speed).

    Of course, the iPhone4 was the biggest refresh to the iPhone ever since the original was introduced, but I would call the 3GS number 2 on that list.

    The iPhone 3G on the other hand was so close to the original iPhone in terms of hardware, that it didn't even get it's own internal revision number.

    Why do we still call it iPhone 5? Everything points to iPhone 4S.
    IMHO the reason why the 3GS was named like that was to bring the iPhone names in line with the respective hardware generation. In other words: New iPhones will most likely just be called iPhone 5/6/7...


    to really stay ahead of the market Apple will need to:

    add a 4" screen
    keep the same form factor
    add the dual core A5 processor
    update the GPU to something similar (but most likely not as powerful) as in the iPad 2
    while keeping the same or possibly even improving the battery life
    add a 64GB version
    (possible 8 MP backlit CMOS sensor camera along side possible 1080p recording since the iPad can now output in full 1080p through HDMI)
    I guess the CPU/GPU will be the same as on the iPad 2, probably with slightly lower Clock speeds, just as they did with the iPhone4 and the iPad.

    Don't know about the screen, though. I'd really like to see them getting rid of the black borders left and right, but I don't think they'll be able to fit a 4" screen without making the device physically larger. Also they couldn't just change the resolution because that would break all apps. I'd say either the device gets slightly smaller or no change at all. There's a slim chance of a just slightly bigger screen (3.7" or something like that) at the same resolution but I somehow don't think Apple would do such a thing.





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  • UmaThurman
    Aug 7, 02:56 PM
    SO in the Paris expo is where we'll most likely see updated MBP? :confused:





    cr2sh
    Dec 4, 02:09 PM
    it's a ******** phone! why does palm ceo opinion count?:confused:


    One word for you: Treo.

    :confused:





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    May 4, 07:50 PM
    Anon proceed forthwith lest I transmute DP to a small rat.





    aswitcher
    Sep 11, 01:24 AM
    EDIT - And don't say "Common" when you mean "Come on."

    I stand corrected - probably should have said 'C'mon'.

    If its only downloadable movies I think there will be Nothing for Aus, so I will join you in the 'meh'.





    rez7777777
    Mar 29, 02:20 PM
    Why use Japanese companies over American Companies. If they are made in China by a Japanese company why would that be cheaper than an American company being made in China? Also if the plants are in Japan they are just as expensive or more to produce in Japan as it is in the U.S. Have you seen any cameras or t.v's made in Japan for the U.S? Japanese people will not buy a t.v or camera etc if it's made outside of Japan, that why they pay much more for products made in Japan. If they are not going to make them in their U.S. make them in China for the lowest cost.





    �algiris
    Mar 31, 07:38 AM
    Some older iMacs with Core 2 Duo were not supported in the first Lion Beta. Has this been changed or updated with this release?

    My 7,1 was fine.